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Herbascious J
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Imagine an empty void of intergalactic space. In this space there is a cloud of diffuse gas, mostly hydrogen and helium. The gas is non-rotating and very cold just above absolute zero. There is nothing else around this cloud, and so it has a clear center of gravity, and no other objects influencing it gravitationally. The cloud has a precise mass that is well determined and does not change. The cloud has a gravitational field that can be detected by an observer far away from the cloud in the surrounding empty space. I am going to assume the gravitational field of this cloud is described by general relativity and so its gravitational field arises from its energy content.
Imagine the cloud begins to collapse under its own gravity. As it does so, the gas begins to move inward very quickly and heat up aggressively. Eventually, all this gas settles down into a compact object that might be spinning, but more importantly the object is considerably hotter. After this takes place, the object emits infra-red radiation in all directions and loses heat in the form of photons. Over a long period of time the body radiates away much of its heat and cools back down to a temperature similar to how it began when it was a diffuse cloud. The energy radiated away is lost to deep space and is no longer considered part of the local system being described and beyond the detection of any observers.
It would appear that the radiation is a loss of energy of the compact object, and because of this, the object will be slightly less massive after cooling down. My question is; does this mean that the object has a slightly weaker gravitational field after it cools down and looses energy? If so, how does this relate to the object’s gravitational field before it collapses while it is still a cool, diffuse, cloud of gas? I imagine this in two ways; one, as the cloud of gas collapses, the molecules speed up and begin to heat up and this makes the cloud more energetic, so the gravitational field of the cloud begins to increase due to all of this new energy in the form of momentum and temperature. This increase in gravitational field would be slight, but detectable by a far away observer in theory. As the object cools back down, after collapse, this increase in energy would lost through radiation and so its gravitational field would return to what it was before.
The second way I imagine this, is that as the cloud collapses, the gas heats up, but this does not change the over-all energy of the cloud because it is something like a closed system, and therefore the potential energy of the cloud in its diffuse, cool state contributes to the over all energy in the beginning, and therefore the gravitational field does not change for outside observers as the cloud collapses and heats up.
However, as the compact object cools as described above, we do have a loss of heat and energy from the system, so the gravitational field should then go down slightly. This is strange to me because the exact same amount of gas is constant through out this thought experiment, and in the end, the temperature returns to its initial level. The only difference is that it starts as a cloud and ends as a compact object. But somehow the gravitational field is slightly weaker. What is the correct interpretation of this thought experiment according to general relativity? Does potential energy have a gravitational field associated with it that contributes to the system over all? I hope that makes sense.
Imagine the cloud begins to collapse under its own gravity. As it does so, the gas begins to move inward very quickly and heat up aggressively. Eventually, all this gas settles down into a compact object that might be spinning, but more importantly the object is considerably hotter. After this takes place, the object emits infra-red radiation in all directions and loses heat in the form of photons. Over a long period of time the body radiates away much of its heat and cools back down to a temperature similar to how it began when it was a diffuse cloud. The energy radiated away is lost to deep space and is no longer considered part of the local system being described and beyond the detection of any observers.
It would appear that the radiation is a loss of energy of the compact object, and because of this, the object will be slightly less massive after cooling down. My question is; does this mean that the object has a slightly weaker gravitational field after it cools down and looses energy? If so, how does this relate to the object’s gravitational field before it collapses while it is still a cool, diffuse, cloud of gas? I imagine this in two ways; one, as the cloud of gas collapses, the molecules speed up and begin to heat up and this makes the cloud more energetic, so the gravitational field of the cloud begins to increase due to all of this new energy in the form of momentum and temperature. This increase in gravitational field would be slight, but detectable by a far away observer in theory. As the object cools back down, after collapse, this increase in energy would lost through radiation and so its gravitational field would return to what it was before.
The second way I imagine this, is that as the cloud collapses, the gas heats up, but this does not change the over-all energy of the cloud because it is something like a closed system, and therefore the potential energy of the cloud in its diffuse, cool state contributes to the over all energy in the beginning, and therefore the gravitational field does not change for outside observers as the cloud collapses and heats up.
However, as the compact object cools as described above, we do have a loss of heat and energy from the system, so the gravitational field should then go down slightly. This is strange to me because the exact same amount of gas is constant through out this thought experiment, and in the end, the temperature returns to its initial level. The only difference is that it starts as a cloud and ends as a compact object. But somehow the gravitational field is slightly weaker. What is the correct interpretation of this thought experiment according to general relativity? Does potential energy have a gravitational field associated with it that contributes to the system over all? I hope that makes sense.